dr_lha
Nov 10, 09:39 AM
I spoke to two techs at PC World computer superstore (biggest computer retailer in UK) two weeks ago about monitor compatibility with my G4 Mac Mini. Turned out both these guys owned Intel Macs, folks pay $$$$ to have their PCs fixed by these guys:p . Anyway I mentioned I was waiting till Leopard to upgrade my Mac. One of the guys mentioned they'd already got the date for when Intel Mac Mini's with Leopard will be in store. Wait for it... April 2007:( . It seems unlikely that Leopard will pounce onto our screens in January.
Those guy's don't actually know anything, Apple hasn't announced anything other than "Spring 2007". However April sounds right to me. People thinking its coming in January are in for a shock, given how buggy the Leopard builds are rigt now its pretty unlikely that Leopard will be out any sooner than April.
Personally I'd like Apple to wait until Leopard is ready to release it, rather than release a bug ridden piece of crap like 10.4(.0) arguably was.
Those guy's don't actually know anything, Apple hasn't announced anything other than "Spring 2007". However April sounds right to me. People thinking its coming in January are in for a shock, given how buggy the Leopard builds are rigt now its pretty unlikely that Leopard will be out any sooner than April.
Personally I'd like Apple to wait until Leopard is ready to release it, rather than release a bug ridden piece of crap like 10.4(.0) arguably was.
*LTD*
Apr 4, 10:11 AM
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Showing how Android is surging ahead is meant to show which OS is winning, but often (as is the case with this report, I believe) they are only looking at phone sales. Because iOS runs on iPads and iPods, Apple's share is higher. I wish we could get more concrete evidence on this.
P-Worm
Your OS isn't "winning" when it's being likened to Windows. It's no compliment. Licensed to anyone who can slam together a box with User Experience as varied as the handset models that run it doesn't make Android a winner.
It just makes it generic.
Showing how Android is surging ahead is meant to show which OS is winning, but often (as is the case with this report, I believe) they are only looking at phone sales. Because iOS runs on iPads and iPods, Apple's share is higher. I wish we could get more concrete evidence on this.
P-Worm
Your OS isn't "winning" when it's being likened to Windows. It's no compliment. Licensed to anyone who can slam together a box with User Experience as varied as the handset models that run it doesn't make Android a winner.
It just makes it generic.
LightSpeed1
Apr 11, 04:09 PM
I think, at least right now, carbon fibre would be prohibitively expensive.
That's what I was thinking.
That's what I was thinking.
Ibjr
Aug 21, 11:33 AM
Can't stand Budweiser/Miller Lite/any of that stuff. My favourite beers are from local breweries or are European. Most of the time, I find myself drinking Heineken or Stella.
Go into any belgian restaurant or bar and Stella is the cheapest thing on the menu because it is crap. You can even judge the prices of the location by its Stella and hoegaarden prices. I can admire microbrews, but blanket statements about European beer that includes talking about Stella or Heineken makes me think you're a beer snob without tastebuds.
Go into any belgian restaurant or bar and Stella is the cheapest thing on the menu because it is crap. You can even judge the prices of the location by its Stella and hoegaarden prices. I can admire microbrews, but blanket statements about European beer that includes talking about Stella or Heineken makes me think you're a beer snob without tastebuds.
SteveRichardson
Aug 2, 03:39 PM
:confused: I dont understand why people keep insisting on virtually outdated technolgies.
The new standard is Blu Ray. Get with the program :)
I think Blu Ray is going to flop.
and to the other guy, I think it's perfectly legitimate to announce a new MBP enclosure with a DL superdrive at the WWDC. I mean it's the pro model laptop. Developers would definitely be using it. And they can burn things faster! :D
ohhhh pleaseohpleaseohplease.
The new standard is Blu Ray. Get with the program :)
I think Blu Ray is going to flop.
and to the other guy, I think it's perfectly legitimate to announce a new MBP enclosure with a DL superdrive at the WWDC. I mean it's the pro model laptop. Developers would definitely be using it. And they can burn things faster! :D
ohhhh pleaseohpleaseohplease.
VanneDC
Mar 20, 04:54 AM
Get the g5 mate , for that price you will love it!!
I like the mini, but if it's got the gma vid chip inside it I would not piss on it to put it out if it was on fire. Pm g5 all the way!!!
I like the mini, but if it's got the gma vid chip inside it I would not piss on it to put it out if it was on fire. Pm g5 all the way!!!
ender land
Apr 12, 11:40 AM
But there is a statutory transgression. It is now illegal in France to go about in public dressed like chattel.
France is attempting to preserve their culture against corrupting outside influence. I don't have any problem with that.
would you have problems if they banned Islam from France?
France is attempting to preserve their culture against corrupting outside influence. I don't have any problem with that.
would you have problems if they banned Islam from France?
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Apr 16, 04:30 PM
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Every other teacher in the school is fine with it, it's just that one guy. By taking it off me, I couldn't get my coursework finished. Pretty annoying. I see everyones point that it's his network, but it's a pretty big assumption to assume that a student is 'hacking the network' because he's on a laptop.
Ever been to any of the Ivy leagues - they offer network (encrypted) so people can do exactly that: work. And a open guest network outside off the firewall... Maybe they need to update their approach
Every other teacher in the school is fine with it, it's just that one guy. By taking it off me, I couldn't get my coursework finished. Pretty annoying. I see everyones point that it's his network, but it's a pretty big assumption to assume that a student is 'hacking the network' because he's on a laptop.
Ever been to any of the Ivy leagues - they offer network (encrypted) so people can do exactly that: work. And a open guest network outside off the firewall... Maybe they need to update their approach
BenRoethig
Oct 23, 11:14 AM
Actually, I think Apple is starting to push into the business market. They seem very serious about their upcoming Xserve launch in the next couple weeks and the iMacs make excellent office computers. Not to mention the current commercial specifically mentioning that their systems run MS Office. I'm willing to bet we'll see a bigger business/corporate market push by Apple once Office goes universal binary.
Anyway, while we're on that subject, does anyone know of a good accounting program for the Mac? And NOT Quickbooks! I despise that software, Intuit has over-simplified it to a point where it actually takes too many redundant steps to do a lot of things. That and its payroll support is a joke since you have to pay them extra to use it and well... I'm not even going to go there.
The GMA iMac is too expensive and doesn't offer enough customization to make a good business desktop. It makes a very good education system though.
Anyway, while we're on that subject, does anyone know of a good accounting program for the Mac? And NOT Quickbooks! I despise that software, Intuit has over-simplified it to a point where it actually takes too many redundant steps to do a lot of things. That and its payroll support is a joke since you have to pay them extra to use it and well... I'm not even going to go there.
The GMA iMac is too expensive and doesn't offer enough customization to make a good business desktop. It makes a very good education system though.
drsmithy
May 5, 11:52 AM
EDIT: Found it, looks like it's all still II. Wow, that's a major drag for a machine like this, particularly one that is offered with SSD options.
No, it's not. Outside of benchmarks and spec sheets, you'll never be able to tell the difference.
Another moot point, though, since no TBolt devices can be purchased.
I would say the fact that no-one will be buying an iMac expecting to extensively use high-bandwidth peripherals is the more important reason why it's moot. Similarly with only using 8 PCIe lanes - it's not like the machine is going to be used for much where the GPU is bandwidth constrained.
If the ports weren't independent, it would have to say 'Two 10-Gbps data channels between them' or 'Two 10-Gbps data channels but under full load they're 5-Gbps'
That TB has "two 10Gb channels per port" is simply a part of the spec - *all* TB ports have two 10Gb channels.
It says nothing about the controller or bus those ports are sitting on. You could put a TB controller on a 32-bit PCI card and it would still have "two 10Gb channels per port" (well, strictly speaking it's unclear whether you can put a TB port on a regular expansion card, but hopefully you get the idea).
TBH the 27" IMac is sounding very tempting with the double TB and SB
why on earth is the HDD not sata-3
Because it's irrelevant. You're not likely to ever be doing anything on these machines that's constrained by SATA2 in a meaningful fashion.
i was planning on copping an IMac for my family home, as my parent and sisters love my MBP - but i really do not care if the IMac CPU is 10-15% faster, when the hdd only links to sata3 - as i would of put an owc ssd in!
The faster CPU and GPU will be far, far more noticeable than having a drive - even an SSD - attached by SATA2 vs SATA3 (or, heck, even SATA1).
No, it's not. Outside of benchmarks and spec sheets, you'll never be able to tell the difference.
Another moot point, though, since no TBolt devices can be purchased.
I would say the fact that no-one will be buying an iMac expecting to extensively use high-bandwidth peripherals is the more important reason why it's moot. Similarly with only using 8 PCIe lanes - it's not like the machine is going to be used for much where the GPU is bandwidth constrained.
If the ports weren't independent, it would have to say 'Two 10-Gbps data channels between them' or 'Two 10-Gbps data channels but under full load they're 5-Gbps'
That TB has "two 10Gb channels per port" is simply a part of the spec - *all* TB ports have two 10Gb channels.
It says nothing about the controller or bus those ports are sitting on. You could put a TB controller on a 32-bit PCI card and it would still have "two 10Gb channels per port" (well, strictly speaking it's unclear whether you can put a TB port on a regular expansion card, but hopefully you get the idea).
TBH the 27" IMac is sounding very tempting with the double TB and SB
why on earth is the HDD not sata-3
Because it's irrelevant. You're not likely to ever be doing anything on these machines that's constrained by SATA2 in a meaningful fashion.
i was planning on copping an IMac for my family home, as my parent and sisters love my MBP - but i really do not care if the IMac CPU is 10-15% faster, when the hdd only links to sata3 - as i would of put an owc ssd in!
The faster CPU and GPU will be far, far more noticeable than having a drive - even an SSD - attached by SATA2 vs SATA3 (or, heck, even SATA1).
wonderspark
Apr 29, 06:31 PM
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/ci.Motorola_DEVOUR_US-EN.alt
^^^ This thing looks sexy. I wonder what will be available by the time my iPhone dies!
^^^ This thing looks sexy. I wonder what will be available by the time my iPhone dies!
Ugg
Apr 12, 10:35 AM
My fianc�e is protestant, went to a Catholic High School and now teaches in both a Catholic High School and an Islamic k-12 school. When she works in the Islamic school, she wears a scarf covering her head, not out of pressure but for respect for their culture. She also lets her students know that she is Christian, but wants to show them that you should respect other people's culture. Compared with one of her colleagues who brings in Bacon sandwiches and doesn't really care, I think it's a nice outlook to have.
I don't really like the law being enforced, it should be a choice, but by the same token, it should perhaps be more like the rules in petrol stations and banks with crash helmets, you need to take them off before being served. I don't know what would be right though.
To be honest, I think it's creepier that your fiancee wears a head scarf than her colleague brings bacon sandwiches. How do we teach children respect for other cultures if they are pandered to? They might well grow up thinking that women of ALL cultures should wear head scarves out of respect for Islam.
Does her colleague eat bacon sandwiches in front of the kids? Should teachers at Islamic schools be subjected to body searches for things that are forbidden by Islam?
I really agree that we should show respect to other cultures, but pandering to them does nobody any good.
I live in a very diverse neighbourhood and I frequently see women in various head scarves. The burka and niqab seem quite antisocial and I find it hypocritical that totally covering one's face like that is accepted but if I walked into these same places with a motorcycle helmet, a balaclava, a mask, etc. I'd be asked to take it off, leave or some other such demonstration of being unwelcome/distrusted. If I said it was part of my religion, would it be accepted?
I find many Islamic beliefs particularly frustrating because many of the beliefs and or believers are SO inflexible but often expect total flexibility for themselves. I'm fed up with religious beliefs being unchallenged and so quickly accepted simply for being religious. Now in general letting people believe what they want is great policy but I think it can go too far. E.g., cases of women wanting to wear burkas and niqabs in identification photos. Come on! :-/ If I go to Dubai on holiday and bring a codeine painkiller that you can buy over the counter here, I could go to jail (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7234786.stm). Or if my husband gives me a little kiss in public, jail (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8602449.stm). Yet, hey, come to the UK and do whatever the hell you please and even try to change our laws or litigate (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23420128-hairdresser-sued-for-refusing-to-hire-muslim-woman-in-a-headscarf.do) if you don't get your way. On one hand the UK's openness is wonderful but the other hand is being walked all over.
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I'm very hard of hearing and almost always have to see a person's face in order to understand what they're saying. Women who cover their faces are impossible for me to understand.
I can't imagine a niqab wearing teacher or any other job where the woman is in contact with the public. At what point does one's religion take preference over basic human interaction? Niqab wearing women should not be awarded any protections because of their refusal to integrate. Whose rights take precedence?
Here in the US, a lot of immigrants also believe in exceptionalism when it comes to respecting laws and customs. Part of the solution is not allowing tidal waves of immigration, rather small trickles over time. Those tsunamis end up creating ghettoes and that benefits nobody.
I don't really like the law being enforced, it should be a choice, but by the same token, it should perhaps be more like the rules in petrol stations and banks with crash helmets, you need to take them off before being served. I don't know what would be right though.
To be honest, I think it's creepier that your fiancee wears a head scarf than her colleague brings bacon sandwiches. How do we teach children respect for other cultures if they are pandered to? They might well grow up thinking that women of ALL cultures should wear head scarves out of respect for Islam.
Does her colleague eat bacon sandwiches in front of the kids? Should teachers at Islamic schools be subjected to body searches for things that are forbidden by Islam?
I really agree that we should show respect to other cultures, but pandering to them does nobody any good.
I live in a very diverse neighbourhood and I frequently see women in various head scarves. The burka and niqab seem quite antisocial and I find it hypocritical that totally covering one's face like that is accepted but if I walked into these same places with a motorcycle helmet, a balaclava, a mask, etc. I'd be asked to take it off, leave or some other such demonstration of being unwelcome/distrusted. If I said it was part of my religion, would it be accepted?
I find many Islamic beliefs particularly frustrating because many of the beliefs and or believers are SO inflexible but often expect total flexibility for themselves. I'm fed up with religious beliefs being unchallenged and so quickly accepted simply for being religious. Now in general letting people believe what they want is great policy but I think it can go too far. E.g., cases of women wanting to wear burkas and niqabs in identification photos. Come on! :-/ If I go to Dubai on holiday and bring a codeine painkiller that you can buy over the counter here, I could go to jail (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7234786.stm). Or if my husband gives me a little kiss in public, jail (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8602449.stm). Yet, hey, come to the UK and do whatever the hell you please and even try to change our laws or litigate (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23420128-hairdresser-sued-for-refusing-to-hire-muslim-woman-in-a-headscarf.do) if you don't get your way. On one hand the UK's openness is wonderful but the other hand is being walked all over.
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I'm very hard of hearing and almost always have to see a person's face in order to understand what they're saying. Women who cover their faces are impossible for me to understand.
I can't imagine a niqab wearing teacher or any other job where the woman is in contact with the public. At what point does one's religion take preference over basic human interaction? Niqab wearing women should not be awarded any protections because of their refusal to integrate. Whose rights take precedence?
Here in the US, a lot of immigrants also believe in exceptionalism when it comes to respecting laws and customs. Part of the solution is not allowing tidal waves of immigration, rather small trickles over time. Those tsunamis end up creating ghettoes and that benefits nobody.
jamesnajera
Jul 14, 02:07 PM
How is magnesium going to prevent the screen from being scratched? I could care less what the ipod is made out of. The only thing I care about is how is Apple going to prevent the screen from being scratched. Apple should do what Nokia has done for the Nokia 8801 cell phone, and use a saphire crystal (Or hell if Apple wants to go cheaper then use a mineral cyrstal) for the iPod screen. This will prevent scratches completly. The only draw back with saphire is that it will chip, but keep in mind watch makers uses saphire and mineral crystal all the time on GOOD watches. These watches are used daily like an iPod and people hardly drop them hard enough or bang them hard enough to chip them. Hell I bang my watch really hard sometimes (on accident) and just expect to see a chip, when I look down my watch is perfectly fine, no scratches or chips, and I have had it for over two years.
just my thoughts
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just my thoughts
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rrl
Apr 28, 12:40 PM
You original said that some people would never buy the 11" even if it had more resolution. I pointed out that some apps are limited by the current resolution. You seem to think it proves your point, but it does the opposite. I'm saying for some apps you need more resolution and some apps you need more storage. Nothing about that says that if the 11" offered either it would not be a choice instead of the 13". I see no logic in your statements, simply an attitude.
Let's back up for a moment. Why are screens in landscape mode to begin with? Because the CRTs, which were meant for video were. [see: RF modulator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RF_modulator)] Mainstream computer screens should have mimicked books, newspapers, and documents rather than televisions, but that's not how it played out. So, unconsciously we adjusted to text in landscape. Kind of stupid, really.
Then came the laptop. Well, a landscape display continued to seem logical 'cause the keyboard was wide. Awesome!
And now we have tablets. Finally, a device in the proper book/newspaper/document orientation. But look! You can rotate it to view multi-media! Perfect! My twenty year wait is over! Wait, what? It's gonna run iOS instead of Mac OS X? Genius!
Laptops have always been a compromise, and thus the choice has always come down to personal preference. Please stop arguing that one is better than the other, because as some of us have been trying to tell you, you'd be wrong.
Let's back up for a moment. Why are screens in landscape mode to begin with? Because the CRTs, which were meant for video were. [see: RF modulator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RF_modulator)] Mainstream computer screens should have mimicked books, newspapers, and documents rather than televisions, but that's not how it played out. So, unconsciously we adjusted to text in landscape. Kind of stupid, really.
Then came the laptop. Well, a landscape display continued to seem logical 'cause the keyboard was wide. Awesome!
And now we have tablets. Finally, a device in the proper book/newspaper/document orientation. But look! You can rotate it to view multi-media! Perfect! My twenty year wait is over! Wait, what? It's gonna run iOS instead of Mac OS X? Genius!
Laptops have always been a compromise, and thus the choice has always come down to personal preference. Please stop arguing that one is better than the other, because as some of us have been trying to tell you, you'd be wrong.
Gelfin
Aug 5, 01:24 PM
I still shake my head a little at the sight of a British couple coming into my favorite microbrewery, ordering two Budweisers, and then leaving in disappointment. I still cannot imagine the historical sequence of events that leads to this tragedy.
Rogue runs a tied house here in the city, which of course carries mostly their beers, but also is required to carry Coors Light as a part of a deal they have with Coors to distribute for them. Last time I was there it was listed on the board as Coors "We Pity You" Light.
Oh, and Lee, I know a place that occasionally serves up a pretty awesome pomegranate cider. Just saying. ;)
Rogue runs a tied house here in the city, which of course carries mostly their beers, but also is required to carry Coors Light as a part of a deal they have with Coors to distribute for them. Last time I was there it was listed on the board as Coors "We Pity You" Light.
Oh, and Lee, I know a place that occasionally serves up a pretty awesome pomegranate cider. Just saying. ;)
BurningJah
Apr 26, 04:18 PM
Looks like he's going 10 km/h to me.
ever seen a car with a top speed of 60 km/h. What you're looking at is the rpm!
ever seen a car with a top speed of 60 km/h. What you're looking at is the rpm!
Squonk
Oct 18, 02:50 PM
If Apple always intended to release the new 6G/widescreen iPod at the same time as the Zune, why did they bring out the 5.5G so recently? It seems quite possible that the widescreen iPod is STILL not ready and Apple made a couple of enhancements to the 5G to try to maintain some momentum over Christmas.
My guess is that the 5.5G will still be around for a while even after the 6G is introduced. And breathing new life into the existing product makes for another sweep of media attention which keeps the sales rolling in. :)
My guess is that the 5.5G will still be around for a while even after the 6G is introduced. And breathing new life into the existing product makes for another sweep of media attention which keeps the sales rolling in. :)
bruinsrme
Nov 10, 10:54 PM
Price is now confirmed at $150 for Kinect + Kinect Adventures. Also confirmed is a new 4GB Arcade 360, based on the slim design, retailing in a bundle with Kinect for $299 (or $199 for the 360 by itself), giving a $50 discount on the total cost.
My thoughts? Too expensive to bother with! Kinect costs nearly as much as a console itself, which is far more complex.
[EDIT: �129 in the UK, bundle price at �249]
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$150 USD is too much? Looking at the toys in red I would figure $150 would be a drop in the bucket. just saying
My thoughts? Too expensive to bother with! Kinect costs nearly as much as a console itself, which is far more complex.
[EDIT: �129 in the UK, bundle price at �249]
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$150 USD is too much? Looking at the toys in red I would figure $150 would be a drop in the bucket. just saying
SuperCachetes
May 1, 12:03 PM
Kind of looks like America is an empire, doesn't it? America has a military presence all around the world. That's like Rome who had a military presence all around the then known world. At the beginning of 2000, America was so powerful and had so much money under Bill Clinton's control, that if it wanted to, they could have taken over the whole world.
If your point is that the US is overdeployed and has a military presence in countries it certainly has no place being, that is well-taken.
That said, there is a difference in "ruling" a territory (as I take the definition you quoted to mean) and simply having boots on the ground.
If your point is that the US is overdeployed and has a military presence in countries it certainly has no place being, that is well-taken.
That said, there is a difference in "ruling" a territory (as I take the definition you quoted to mean) and simply having boots on the ground.
TheUndertow
Apr 11, 10:00 AM
Probably the most gorgeous laptop I've ever seen.
I'm still having a "2011 MBP Hangover" from that mock pic and rumor run-up to the release...
....and still haven't bought one yet.
I sure a $@&$ would have if they were Liquid Metal or CF (and included the rumored SSD OS).
REALLY hoping they go with a new case for 2012 (or later 2011) refresh....provided i don't buy one before then.
I'm still having a "2011 MBP Hangover" from that mock pic and rumor run-up to the release...
....and still haven't bought one yet.
I sure a $@&$ would have if they were Liquid Metal or CF (and included the rumored SSD OS).
REALLY hoping they go with a new case for 2012 (or later 2011) refresh....provided i don't buy one before then.
ghall
Oct 25, 10:04 AM
Xserve lags so far behind the Mac Pro in release, costs much more, has little to make it better and just as much to make it worse. I would love to have an Xserve, but I don't understand why anyone would buy one.
It's for buisnesses. It whouldn't be very practical for an individual. It whould be cool, but damn expensive to maintain for just one person.
It's for buisnesses. It whouldn't be very practical for an individual. It whould be cool, but damn expensive to maintain for just one person.
Chundles
Oct 19, 05:37 AM
Agreeed.
Here is the line-up
iPod schuffle
iPod nano
iPod
iPod X (X being a real cool marketing name)
the iPod X will be the 'True Video iPod'
schuffle??
His shuffle's had another scuffle.
Here is the line-up
iPod schuffle
iPod nano
iPod
iPod X (X being a real cool marketing name)
the iPod X will be the 'True Video iPod'
schuffle??
His shuffle's had another scuffle.
NebulaClash
Apr 27, 03:37 PM
Great post. Just one thing (or maybe 2?)
I never said I didn't like what Apple has done or that the technology isn't great.
What I was stating is that Apple, along with other companies contribute to the dumbing down of society. And then put themselves in a position to speak down to you (ie today's quote by Steve Jobs) about educating the customer.
I don't pretend to have all the answers. One of my majors was in Speech Communications. There's a lot of validity to professionals using language to subjugate and/or exclude other members of society in conversation. The language doctors, lawyers, auto mechanics, you name it all have their own vocabulary which excludes the average person. This also adds "mystique" and credence to the information they state.
So when I say that Apple and other companies are contributing to the dumbing down of society - I say that without prejudice or judgment - but merely a statement of fact. And pretty incontrovertible at that.
OK, from a rhetoric perspective you have a good point. I was addressing the persepective of our tools, not the way we are spoken to.
I see the dumbing down of society too, and I hate it. As for what Steve said, well, he always did view all of us as either heros or losers, so this way of viewing people is not new with him :)
I never said I didn't like what Apple has done or that the technology isn't great.
What I was stating is that Apple, along with other companies contribute to the dumbing down of society. And then put themselves in a position to speak down to you (ie today's quote by Steve Jobs) about educating the customer.
I don't pretend to have all the answers. One of my majors was in Speech Communications. There's a lot of validity to professionals using language to subjugate and/or exclude other members of society in conversation. The language doctors, lawyers, auto mechanics, you name it all have their own vocabulary which excludes the average person. This also adds "mystique" and credence to the information they state.
So when I say that Apple and other companies are contributing to the dumbing down of society - I say that without prejudice or judgment - but merely a statement of fact. And pretty incontrovertible at that.
OK, from a rhetoric perspective you have a good point. I was addressing the persepective of our tools, not the way we are spoken to.
I see the dumbing down of society too, and I hate it. As for what Steve said, well, he always did view all of us as either heros or losers, so this way of viewing people is not new with him :)
skiltrip
Jul 15, 08:55 PM
I hope they touch on the proximity sensor too, but I have a feeling its going to be about the antenna only.
Me too. I honestly think the proximity sensor is a bigger issue, in a way, because there IS a remedy (though some don't like it) by using a case. Whereas the proximity sensor is what it is, and we're powerless to fix it, or remedy it unless Apple recognizes, addresses it, and fixes it. But with all the attention to the antenna, I'm afraid the proximity sensor stuff is (for now) slipping thru the cracks.
Apple would be the heroes if they address this tomorrow. They'd do themselves a favor to be the first to make it widely known, then to have it become phase two in iPhonegate.
Me too. I honestly think the proximity sensor is a bigger issue, in a way, because there IS a remedy (though some don't like it) by using a case. Whereas the proximity sensor is what it is, and we're powerless to fix it, or remedy it unless Apple recognizes, addresses it, and fixes it. But with all the attention to the antenna, I'm afraid the proximity sensor stuff is (for now) slipping thru the cracks.
Apple would be the heroes if they address this tomorrow. They'd do themselves a favor to be the first to make it widely known, then to have it become phase two in iPhonegate.
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